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		<title>Turnitin follow up&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Connolly</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s been a couple of days since I posted my <a href="http://blog.webworxshop.com/2009/10/06/turnitin-com_wtf">rant about my bad experience</a> with <a href="http://turnitin.com">turnitin.com</a> on <a href="http://ubuntu.com">Ubuntu</a> and (shock horror!) I&#8217;ve had a response (thus defying the title of this blog).</p> <p>The responder was <a href="http://twitter.com/ssharon27">Stephen Sharon</a> via <a href="http://http://twitter.com/robconnolly">Twitter</a>, he&#8217;s written a paper around some of the legal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s been a couple of days since I posted my <a href="http://blog.webworxshop.com/2009/10/06/turnitin-com_wtf">rant about my bad experience</a> with <a href="http://turnitin.com">turnitin.com</a> on <a href="http://ubuntu.com">Ubuntu</a> and (shock horror!) I&#8217;ve had a response (thus defying the title of this blog).</p>
<p>The responder was <a href="http://twitter.com/ssharon27">Stephen Sharon</a> via <a href="http://http://twitter.com/robconnolly">Twitter</a>, he&#8217;s written a paper around some of the legal concerns over turnitin and he sent me the <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1259310">link</a>. It&#8217;s good reading and confirms some of the things I had heard surrounding the site. I&#8217;d encourage everyone reading this to click through and read Stephen&#8217;s paper (it&#8217;s 38 pages, but double spaced and with much of each page containing references).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not qualified to give legal comment on tunitin (I&#8217;m an Engineer not a Lawyer), but I will give my opinion. Before I do I&#8217;d like to give the following disclaimer (in true <a href="http://www.softwarefreedom.org/podcast/">Software Freedom Law Show</a> style):</p>
<p><strong>WARNING: The following DOES NOT (in any way, shape or form) constitute legal advice, it is only my own (perhaps misguided) opinion. I would urge anyone who has any concerns over how their data may have been used by Turnitin to contact someone who actually knows what they a talking about, in this case A LAWYER!</strong></p>
<p>Basically, I think Turnitin is on pretty shaky legal ground both in terms of Copyright and Privacy (certainly under US law). Here in New Zealand we have different privacy laws, but I&#8217;m sure they probably say much the same thing. The copyright issues are also concerning, I don&#8217;t want to turn over my rights to Turnitin just so I can submit my paper. What if my assignment gave technical details of an invention which I may in future have some financial interest in. Turnitin would have the right to use that information as they see fit.</p>
<p>Realistically I think it&#8217;s only a matter of time before Turnitin is taken to court again to face a hard examination of their user agreement, etc. This whole thing brings me back onto the subject of <a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">Free Software</a>. I think it really is important for these tools which have such important uses to be Free (as in speech), it would be great to see a <a href="http://autonomo.us/">Free Network Service</a> replace Turnitin as the dominant player in this market. I would much rather trust that to be transparent and honest than a company driven by profit and market share.</p>
<p>Anyway that&#8217;s just my $0.02. Before I finish I&#8217;ll encourage you all again to read <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1259310">Stephen&#8217;s paper</a>.</p>
<p>Bye!</p>
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		<title>Turnitin.com, wtf?</title>
		<link>http://webworxshop.com/2009/10/06/turnitin-com_wtf</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Connolly</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about this but I really have to say something about this. We had to submit an assignment yesterday via <a href="http://turnitin.com">turnitin.com</a> and it broke on me because I wasn&#8217;t using a &#8216;supported operating system&#8217;, I was using <a href="http://ubuntu.com">Ubuntu</a>.</p> <p>When I logged in I got a message warning me that it might not work, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about this but I really have to say something about this. We had to submit an assignment yesterday via <a href="http://turnitin.com">turnitin.com</a> and it broke on me because I wasn&#8217;t using a &#8216;supported operating system&#8217;, I was using <a href="http://ubuntu.com">Ubuntu</a>.</p>
<p>When I logged in I got a message warning me that it might not work, but I honestly don&#8217;t see the reason why. Shouldn&#8217;t it just be browser specific, not OS specific? I then proceeded to upload my PDF and it seemed to think it actually wasn&#8217;t a PDF! Switching to a Windows XP machine and uploading the same PDF worked fine which is the really random thing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even see why <a href="http://www.auckland.ac.nz">our University</a> has to use a third party service for this anyway, I&#8217;m sure they have the resources to do this in house. Then there is the whole <a href="http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnitin#Possible_violation_of_student_copyright">copyright</a> thing, which I&#8217;m not altogether happy with either.</p>
<p>Anyway, at least it seems Ubuntu isn&#8217;t alone in this, according to a friend Windows 7 also triggers the same error message (albeit without the PDF fail).</p>
<p>Again, sorry for the rant.</p>
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